All right, then, uh, we'll have the matter set on, uh, for a preliminary hearing. Request is noted, Entered for the record, uh, as to bond, Mr Bigger, Your Honor, the court, The state is going to ask the court set bond at $2 million. That is the amount that Judge Wagner set on the arrest warrant in this state. I believe that this court should honor that amount. There are numerous very powerful and valid reasons for wanting appropriate amount. In this case, the defendant is charged with two counts of first degree intentional homicide as well as other very serious felonies. Two people were killed in this case. These charges are a serious. As we get in Wisconsin. There is a certainty that if the defendant is convicted, he will be sent to prison and a strong likelihood that he will serve most, if not the remainder of his life in prison if he is convicted of these charges. Thus, a substantial amount of cash bail is necessary because someone who's facing these types of charges as the strongest possible incentive not to return to court. I would note that the defendant does not live in Kenosha does not reside in Wisconsin and other than a part time job is a lifeguard doesn't appear to have any ties to our community. Hey, resided at one point in Antioch, Illinois, however, it's my understanding that the residents or the address that his family resided at they no longer reside there, Uh, perhaps due to some threats or concerns over their safety. But I don't know what their current address is. I think that they are, perhaps for good reason, not sharing that address. But nonetheless, the fact of the matter is that the defendants released from custody and joins his family. It will be at some undisclosed location S O that is cause for concern. We extradited the defendant from Illinois over strong objections from the defense. There were multiple hearings in Lake County as recently as Friday in which the defense had filed numerous motions and arguments challenging this case and challenging Wisconsin's right to extradite the defendant. I take that all to mean that the defendant doesn't want to be here, and if released, won't come back, eh? So I think that that is something the court should consider very seriously. The defense will suggest that the defendant turned himself in on the night of this incident and therefore is not a flight risk. I would suggest to the court that the circumstances have changed substantially since the defendant did that at that time. Perhaps he had the mindset that he was justified in what he was doing, that the police would hear his explanation, give him a pat on the back and send him out the door. Clearly, that's not what happened. Clearly, he's facing serious charges in this case, and whatever his misguided or unreasonable expectations were that evening when he turned himself in. Do not apply any further. Uh, we are in the midst of a very serious case here. The court judge. Wagner has already set $2 million bond. I think that's enough appropriate amount, and I would ask that the court honor then, in terms of the non monetary conditions of bond, we would ask that the court order that the defendant not have possess or uh, have any weapons in his possession. I would also ask that the court order no contact with the following individuals engage Brooks, writes Richard McGuinness, Dominic Black, as well as relatives of the victims in this case, including John Huber, who is hereby zoom Karen Bloom, who is Anthony Huber's mother, and Charles Rosenbaum, who is a brother of, uh, the victim, um, Joseph Rosenbaum. Thank you. Alright. And Karen, did you say Bloom? Is that bl um or a different spelling? I think it's Blom. Thanks for em. Okay. All right. Thank you. E heard the government's argument. Um, last time I checked, having, um went through an extradition hearing is not a valid basis. Toe have a higher bond when one is only asserting one's constitutional right toe. Have that hearing further on the video, which this criminal complaint is based on. It's clear that the client Kyle tried to turn himself in to law enforcement. They chose not to accept his surrender. He went to the Antioch Police Department where he was from. He turned himself in. He waited for the Kenosha police departments to go there. The criminal complaint is full of material omissions, whether through negligence or through recklessness. It doesn't talk about Mr Rosenbaum chasing my client while masked covering his identity. It doesn't talk about Mr Sieminski, his partner firing the first shot at my client When my client is running down the road trying to get away, he goes and Mrs Gross quits. Mr. Gross quits, approaches him, goes Where you going? Going to turn myself into the police, which she tried. It's on video. My client is 17 years old. Is no prior juvenile, No other record whatsoever. He has ties to the community, his father, who lives in the community. He worked in the community. The self defense claim in this case is overwhelming. It's on videotape, and under all of those circumstances, three quarters of a million dollars and electronic monitoring is more than sufficient. We have no objection to the non monetary conditions, but at a certain point, state can bury their head in the sand. And in reality, who struck my client first? Who attacked my client first, Mr Rosenbaum, the decedent. My clients running down towards the police line when he's attacked by a mob. We're not talking about. Demonstrators were talking about rioters who had ill intent in their art, and unfortunately, they came in second. All right. Thank you, Mr Richards. Courts aware these are allegations, but they are, uh, the most serious of allegations. They're incredibly serious. And again, if a conviction occurs and Onley obviously the conviction occurs, the defendant would likely face either life imprisonment or an imposition of many decades. Oh, I'm sorry. Also, before I go further, though I do want to hear from the victim's. If I could if they do wish to be heard. Uh, in this part, Mr Hubert, do you wish to be heard, sir? You have to commute yourself then, sir. Mr. Hubert, you're on mute. Can Ewan mute your device? Okay. Can you hear me now? I can, sir. Okay. Good afternoon, Your Honor. Um, I would like to say that you know, this this file guy is a flight risk. He's facing a long time in prison. Uh, and he has people out there that will help him. Organizations of, uh, militia members that are raising money for his defense right now. They can harbor him. He I object to this. There is no basis in fact, Mr Mr Richards. Mr. Richards. That's his, uh, the Mr Huber's opinion. He may state his opinion pursuant to the current status of the law in Wisconsin. I'm going to allow him to state that position. What? I take into account. Um uh, baby different. Um, but at this point, Mr Huber is allowed to state his position as a victim in this matter. Go ahead, Mr You. Yeah. Uh, Cal Rittenhouse thinks he's above the law. He's been treated as such by law enforcement, and so he believes he's justified in this case. And for him to run. Uh, wouldn't wouldn't surprise me. Uh, and And this defense of self defense, that is impossible. That is impossible. I don't know what part of the video you watched, but he already killed a guy, shot him in the head and then tried to run. And my son was a hero. He tried to stop him, and so did everybody else. He was an active shooter, and he tried to flee. And my son lost his life protecting other people. He was a hero. And anyone who says otherwise is dead wrong, including the president for the comment on that. How dare he? He needs to just stay on Twitter. Oh, you know, he already admitted to killing two people in Antioch. He told the police I killed two white guys. Okay, so he's already admitted it, and, uh you know, people buying him an assault weapon. They're responsible. Also, you know who gives a kid an assault? Weapons says Well, Goto, Wisconsin. You know that XYZ what we're up against here. It's not about self defense anywhere. And if you could double his cast bond, that's what I'm for. I'm for doubling his bond. It should be 4 to $10 million because there's people out there raising money right now, making it their own fight, that it's about gun rights. And it's not about gun rights. My son was killed, another man was killed. They didn't deserve to be killed. And we don't have that society where we just let people go and kill people and say, Oh, you guys will push him down there and you guys kill him down there because that's what the police did here. And, uh, and the police weren't doing their job. Or else they wouldn't have asked for these people to come around. You know, he was to businesses away when he chased that guy down and shot him in the head. That's far. He chased him down to kill him, and that guy was unarmed and my son was unarmed. You hit him in the shoulder with a skateboard. You know, he was a hero. Anyways, that's all I have. All right. Thank you. Mr Hubert. Mr. Grosskreutz, did you wish to address the court, Your honor, over just a court on behalf of Mr Gross Croix, Thank you very much. We do agree with what Mr Huber has just said. That Anthony Huber was, in fact a hero. And our condolences go to you. I think it's, uh, inexcusable the behavior of Mr Rittenhouse. We believe that significant like risk. We also believe that his bail should be set at a minimum of $4 million. We believe that he has shown himself be a flight risk because even though he may have been running past police officers with his hands up, it didn't stop him from jumping in a car and then driving past numerous police stations that night when he could have turned himself in that night in the state of Wisconsin. And he failed to do that. We believe that Mr Rittenhouse is a significant danger to the public as well. And we asked the court to impose a significant amount of bail as Mr Huber just indicated there are numerous organizations and people that are raising money On behalf of Mr Rittenhouse, my client has faced significant threats to his safety from numerous people were not attributing that to the defendant at all. But we are concerned that if if he is released that those threats will increase significantly. And so we asked the court to take all these things into consideration three arguments of the state as well as the arguments from Mr Huber and to impose, um, at a minimum, a $4 million cash bail. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Well, now, well, as I said before, the charges are incredibly serious. And again, and on Lee of conviction occurs, there would be a likelihood of imposition of a mandatory life sentence. Are at least significant amounts of time, likely decades of period of incarceration. Um, that is very concerning to this court. Theis, you for bail? Is thio secure. The defendants appearance in court in this case that I note that a zay said before the exposure is great. Here's a report that Mr Rittenhouse did flee the scene of the occurrence. He left the state and matter of fact, uh was then involved in a contested extradition hearing to be returned hearings to be returned to the jurisdiction of Kenosha County. Mr. Richards is right. Does have a right to contest extradition. But the issue that this court has to determine is what, uh, pursuant to the statutes are what issues are there with respect to the basis of whether or not Mr Rittenhouse is a flight risk or not. Now, again, I don't feel that at this juncture at this point in time, Mr Rittenhouse has significant ties to Kenosha County. And as such, I believe that there's a reasonable basis to believe that a very significant cash bond is necessary to assure this defendant's appearance in court, as court does believe that he is a flight risk based upon the comments I just made. And in addition of the case is Mr Richards has brought up. He did, uh, surrender himself to Illinois authorities. Um, but circumstances appeared to have changed at some point, following that with respect to the extradition issues. But again, that's not this court doesn't take in it. Uh, hold it against Mr Rittenhouse, if you will. In terms of exercising his constitutional rights in the state of Illinois. More to the point about whether or not Mr Rittenhouse will appear as required in the state of Wisconsin in Kenosha County for court and court appearances. Court, as I said a minute ago, does believe that for the reasons the state of Mr Rittenhouse is a flight risk as such, court is going to impose a $2 million cash bond, believing that is reasonable, necessary and sufficient at this juncture to secure the appearance of Mr Rittenhouse. In addition, non monetary conditions are as follows. Mr. Rittenhouse, you're to have no contact with the following individuals Now, that is no contact at any time, any location or any reason through any forum or means. That's with Richard McGuinness, Gauge Grosskreutz Dominic Black, Karen Bloom, John Huber, our Charles Rosenbaum. In addition, sir, you may not possess any weapons of any type, especially firearms. You must appear in court every time when required here in Kenosha County. If you are released, you may not commit further crimes while out on bond. Do you understand all of those conditions, Mr Rittenhouse? Yes, sir. Thank you very much, sir. Okay. Now, um my understanding that that I'll speak to Mr Richards. As you're aware, Mr Rittenhouse has a right to have a preliminary hearing held by statute within 10 days of his initial appearance. When you're held in custody on a felony case as he is, uh, there's some discussion off the record. Uh, I've been advised that wasn't participant to that, but that, uh, there's a likelihood that Mr Rittenhouse through Mr Richards wishes to waive the time to have and asked the court to told time to counter the preliminary hearing out beyond that 10 day statutory limit. Is that correct, Mr Richards? That is correct. I discussed with my client that yesterday, and he's an agreement. All right. Thank you, Mr Rittenhouse Again. Can you hear me? Clearly, This is the commissioner speaking. Yes. All right. Thank you. Now you have a right, sir. When you're held in custody in a felony case in the state of Wisconsin to have a preliminary hearing held within 10 days of your initial appearance, do you understand that? Mhm. All right. But you also have the right sir toe wave that time limit. Allow this court and ask the court to toll time in order to schedule your preliminary hearing farther out or beyond that 10 day limit. Do you understand that as well, sir? Yes, sir. All right. That's what your attorney, Mr Richards, indicates you wish to. Do you understand that? Yes. Is that what in fact, you do wish to do, sir? All right. Thank you. Then, based upon the defendants understanding and willingness to wave time, the court will told time for cause in this case, uh, pursuant to the request of the defendant and through his attorney, Mr Richards, to counter the preliminary hearing out beyond the 10 day statutory limit. If preliminary hearing December the third again. That's 12. 3 at 10:30 a.m. Works for me. All right. Is there anything else? Otherwise I'll conclude the hearing. All right. Thank you. All right, all right. Thank you. Thank you, everyone, that will conclude the hearing. More money.